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, moderates versus conservatives? >> i thought to mention rick santorum. we talked about, most of them are actually more -- and also given where the current debate is this morning, are more in the moderate portion of the party. and they will be coming forward in various ways saying i have the answer to this question which is the hispanic question. also it's the question with women. how to reach out to those voters and speak to them in an effective way. >> it's going to be a determination of what counts as moderate in the republican party. if it means something that's more accommodationist on immigration, it's not going to be something that's dramatically more accommodationist on taxes. but it might be something a million or above. on fiscal issues the republican party is not going to abandon moorings, pro-life definition. it simply can't. no nominee i can see in the foreseeable future is going to either. those things will have to be merged in a way that a post-reagan, post-bush and a new definition of the party. one of the things that held mitt romney back, he did not take an it. we lo
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